The Advanced Scouting series returns for the three game set the Phillies are about to embark upon in the not-so-friendly confines of Shea Stadium. For this interview, we have input from D.J. Short of Mets Blog, Dan Scotto of Mets Geek and Greg Prince of Faith and Fear in Flushing. Without further ado, their thoughts to my questions...
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When the Mets acquired Johan Santana, nearly everyone with an opinion
thought he put the Mets back on top in the NL East. That remains to be
seen, but what kind of difference has he made so far for the Mets in
this young season?
Short: The
impact is tangible. Spring Training would have been an ugly place to be
had the Mets not acquired Santana. Make no mistake, Mets fans have not
forgotten how last season ended, but the Santana trade allowed Mets
fans to finally look forward to the new season instead of dwelling on
07's end. Also, with Pedro going down the first week, we learned that
it pays to have a young, durable ace who can be relied upon every five
days. Even on a day like Sunday, when you could tell he didn't have his
best stuff, he kept the Mets in the game for as long as he was in
there. Can't ask for much more than that.
Scotto: I think the Santana transaction has made a huge difference in a bunch
of ways. I can imagine a scenario where the Mets hadn't traded for
Santana, and Pedro got hurt on Opening Day, soon after the collapse and
a relatively inactive offseason. I imagine that the whole thing would
be very demoralizing, not to mention frightening, as far as the
pitching staff itself goes. For fans, I think Santana has given us a
reason to hope. The Mets were an aging team that had just finished one
of the worst collapses in baseball history. Now they're an aging team
that just finished one of the worst collapses in baseball history...
but one that also has the best pitcher in the game in his prime. It
makes it a lot easier to swallow, certainly.
Prince: Two starts, one win, not quite dazzling but definitely the stuff of aces. Santana's been good for seven innings twice and if we are to assume pitchers get stronger after their first couple of starts, that bodes well for a staff whose bullpen is a game of Lotto most days.
I tend to think that the way the NL East shook out in 2007 was more
about how the Phillies played in September than how the Mets choked or
fell apart. What's your opinion? Based upon what you have seen so far
in '08, would you say there is a carry over?
Short: I
think it depends on what side of the fence you are on. In September, I
saw teams that the Mets should have easily handled (Marlins, Nationals)
give them fits. Jose Reyes couldn't buy a hit, or a stolen base, even.
The starters couldn't last more than five innings, and the bullpen, who
was missing Billy Wagner in some crucial situations, was dangerously
over-extended. It was a tragic cocktail that led to the Mets demise. An
average, even sub-par month, and they would have won the division going
away. It took a historic collapse to make it happen. I'm convinced of
that.
One week in, it's hard to really tell if it's crossed over. Jose Reyes is definitely the player to watch this season, though. I'm still
not sure if his struggles were a mirage or not.
Scotto: Oh, as a Met fan, I'm always going to be more critical of my team than
complementary towards the other team, but that's just the nature of
being a fan.
The Mets played below .500 from early June onward.
In September, their starting rotation and bullpen both imploded, and
their lineup stopped hitting, save David Wright and Carlos Beltran.
But really, credit where its due: the Phils played out of their
minds down the stretch, and they beat the Mets in the final eight games
that they played. It wasn't like the Phillies lucked into it; they
really earned it.
Prince: History was definitely a team effort. That is to say the Phillies couldn't have done it without the Mets and the Mets couldn't have done it without the Phillies. One refused to lose, the other chose not to win. Oh well. For '08, I assume the Phils have a little more
confidence than they would have had they not surged to the division title. The Mets look a bit lost right now, but that could just be first-week shakeout. We won't know about carryover until we're a month into the season. If it makes you feel any better, I'm not looking forward to seeing the Phillies, not out of fear, just because I don't need September 2007 flashbacks so soon.
Pedro Martinez has been diagnosed with a mild hamstring strain that
will keep him out for 4-6 weeks. How long would a moderate hamstring
strain keep him out of action for? Would a severe one necessitate
amputation? In all seriousness though, how long do you think he will
really miss?
Short: I
have no idea what to believe anymore with Pedro. At this point, I have
to say that anything the Mets get from him is bonus. The Mets have
played the better part of the last two seasons without him, and they
acquired Santana, so their identity is not dependent on him anymore.
Frankly, I wouldn't mind him sitting out until the All-Star break and
come back strong and rested. But I'm not holding my breath on that one,
either.
Scotto: Heh, good question. I don't really mind if they hold him out for a
little bit longer than they would normally, with a standard pitcher
injury. I think that a well-rested Pedro down the stretch would be a
useful component, and as a 36-year old guy with arm problems and now
leg problems, he's best described as "fragile." If he gives you 20 good
starts this year, you're quite happy as a Mets fan.
I really don't know enough about sports medicine to give you a good
estimate, but I'll predict he's on the mound at Shea before Memorial
Day. That's not a particularly bold statement, but as a fan, I try to
keep my expectations low.
Prince: We're not a doctor and we don't play one on our blog, but we have learned that Pedro time clocks differently than any other kind. If you take the forecasts literally, that baseball activity resumes in four weeks and you throw in the rehab starts and the inevitable setbacks, I'd be surprised to see him back before July. This way I'll be pleasantly surprised if he makes it back by June.
As of right now, the Mets are 2-3, which is perfectly fine for this
time of year, but lets say the Mets are 10-14 or so on April 31st, how
much longer is Willie Randolph the manager?
Short: If
the Mets start 10-14, people will be freaking. Talk radio will be
buzzing. Wallace Matthews will be calling for his resignation in
Newsday. The Wilpons will give him a vote of confidence. All true. But
unless a team in the division seriously pulls away from the pack, it's
no reason for Willie to pack his bags. If the Mets are 14 games back
like the Yankees were last May, get back to me.
Scotto: Fascinating question. I would bet that Randolph keeps his job if the
Mets make the playoffs, and gets fired if they don't make the playoffs.
In season, though, I think it would take a truly disastrous start to
prompt a Randolph firing. Perhaps... 15-30 or something along the lines
of what Oakland or Houston did a few years back. If they're just
hovering at 22-23 or something at that point, though, I think Randolph
will face a hostile New York media but won't have much reason to lose
sleep.
Prince: Well, if the Mets have any kind of record on April 31st, you'd have a scoop, given that there are 30 days this month [Mets and their fancy calendars!]. But seriously...it will take an immense letdown for Willie to be let go in 2008. Ownership values stability almost as much as results at this point and I don't think they want to go into the Citi Field era with a reputation as an organization in flux. Things would have to get pretty bad for Willie to be in serious trouble before the All-Star break. A few games under .500 after one month won't move the needle, though it might make for a few headlines.
This is the last season for Shea Stadium. Will you miss it next year?
Personally, I couldn't wait for the Phillies to say goodbye to
Veteran's Stadium a few years ago...

Short: Shea
Stadium certainly has it's fair share of charm and history, but a new
stadium is long overdue. It won't take me very long to get over it.
I'll put it that way.
Scotto: I tend to subscribe to the "It's a dump, but it's our dump" mentality
of someone who grew up going to the occasional game there. My memories
of the place will remain forever, though; I had the privilege of being
at the post-9/11 game at Shea and I will never forget that night. I
also strongly resent the significant seat reduction at the new park. It
will be almost impossible to get tickets in the early going.
With that said, I think that they needed a new stadium pretty
badly. The only thing I would ask of the Mets would be to place
"historical markers" in the parking lot where Shea is knocked down,
like, "This was where Tommy Agee made a great catch during the '69
World Series," "This is where the ball went through Buckner's legs,"
and "This is where Robin Ventura was mobbed by Todd Pratt in Game 5 of
the '99 NLCS," "This is where Endy Chavez made the greatest catch in
Mets' history," etc. I think it would be a nice touch.
Prince: Right now, it is an article of faith with me that I will miss Shea. It's been my home since I was 10, not just my home away from home. I think Shea is unique among the parks of its era, not just another cookie-cutter if you got to know it really well (consider the
horseshoe, the original mod '60s exterior, just the friendliness of it in its youth). One year from now if I'm sitting in Citi Field and having a Citizens Bank like experience, I might be wondering "what did I think I was going to miss again?" But the memories are in Shea and
the 55,000+ seats are in Shea, so I don't think I'll flip that fast. You have to be a Mets fan to love Shea, but I'm a Mets fan, so I do.
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Thanks again to Greg, D.J., and Dan. And, may the best team win this week, unless of course thats not the Phillies!
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